It seems since the update to Marshal Brass 1.1.0. I cannot get the midi learn function to work on the right click either on the TIMBRE nor the EXPRESSION, although the expression is working fine on the mod wheel. I am using Cubase 14 Pro and Nuendo 14, and it’s still the same. So frustrating as I bought this beautiful library to work on a project named Abergavenny. As some on stated, the TIMBRE works on the mouse wheel, it’s no good. Can some one point me in the right direction? I use the Korg nanoKONTROL2 and my OS is Winders 11 Pro, and all up to date. Any help and pointers would be appreciated.
Hi, I raised a support ticket with similar problems in Logic and with Glass Strings! The short answer is they are aware of the problem and working to rectify the situation. Neither Timbre and Expression work in Latch Mode or are recognised in the Autoselect Automation in Read Mode, where every other parameter is. For now I’m having to draw in the automation for both parameters! Hope this is sorted soon, and this is of some help for yourself. Stay Tuneful!
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Thanks for the reply KG70,
unfortunately the reply from Crowhill about this was this,
‘Hey Steve, Unfortunately the current solution is the best compromise we could come up with for the time being, so a change to this design won’t be any time soon I’m afraid!’
A bit soul destroying when you want to write emotion into it on the fly. To me, it’s like having a beautiful Rolls Royce without the wheels, just can’t drive it and will I ever be able to.
Well that’s not good at all! I’ll be reluctant in upgrading any of my other purchased instruments if this is to be all round thing?
It’s not the same penciling in the automation.
And to me somewhat elitist for those with all dancing and singing finger-me-bob fader things!
Hi KG70,
Yeah, I totally agree, I think that Christian is a bit of a hypocrite when he says feeling emotion when using the sliders, and there is no future fix on the horizon.
I bought Eric Whitacre Choir from Spitfire Audio when it was on offer some time back now, and it’s not bad; except for the ‘EVO’ plugin part of it.
When you open a project with that particular plugin, it never loads the library into the ‘EVO GRID’ at all, stays absolutely blank. You have to open the plugin first, before it loads the library, and it’s questionable as if it’s loading the saved settings or not? I asked the same question as to whether that was going to be fixed, unfortunately, I had the same response as the Marshal Brass. Very unlikely. I did write a ticket up for that with Spitfire, and just a wall of silence. A lot of money spent when investing in a company that some how feels that selling you a car with only two wheels and tell you that it’s tough if you don’t like it. Very bad P.R. If you ask me.
Every time that I open a project with Marshal Brass, I have to open my Korg Kontrol2 editor before the plugin will work with both Timbre and Expression; not only that, I have to write the scene data ever time. Thank God for Fracture Sound and their fabulous ‘Brass Band Soloists’ and their ‘BLUEPRINT’ brass series. 8Dio and SoundPaint are my most ‘Go To’ libraries.
Have a great day
Steve
P.S. Maybe Christian might read this and come to his senses and get the problem fixed, like Eric Whitacre Evo from Spitfire Audio?; I doubt it.
What I don’t get is, for me in Logic, it was doing what I needed it to do.
Bring on the updates and one of the most important accessible features gone!
If they can’t fix it, then give us legacy versions!
Stay Tuneful!
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Yeah, I know where your coming from, for me it’s not very usable, and creates a reluctance to use it. When you get an idea in your head, you need that precision and speed to open up your project and play it in straight away.
You too have a tuneful day
Steve
Cannot agree more. I went to use SSG after the update and no Midi Learn!? I have a perfectly good Akai APC with lots of sliders, but now all of a sudden, it’s redundant. So am I now supposed to change my workflow (learned in part from Christian’s video advice), and draw the buggers in??
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If you can’t re-programme your MIDI faders, you can always use a little free app like “midiPipe” on Mac or “MIDI Hotkeys“ on Windows. You’d simply have to find out what CC your faders send, convert them to CC11 and CC1, and BYU.
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Cheers Robert, thanks for that pointer.
I don’t have the problem of writing the CC numbers at all, it’s just the fact that there is no right click on the Midi Learn function, that’s all it is buddy, it just makes the process faster in the DAW, both Nuendo 14 and Cubase 14 Pro.
Have a great day.
Anyone hear if we can get back to the original version of Marshal Brass? The new one still won’t see my Sparrow 3. I rather not go to another lib, but they still don’t have an update to patch it that I can see.
Hey all, David here from support!
Robert above nailed it - at the moment those controls are hardwired to CC1 and CC11, which are the general standard CC numbers for those parameters, so all you need to do is set your faders to send CC1 & CC11.
The reason we’ve had to hardwire it for now is that there was an issue affecting a considerable number of Logic & Ableton users, whereby those DAWs were reading the information multiple times and it was doing some crazy stuff (making duplicate automation lanes, completely filling up the undo history).
We have come up with an alternative fix that we’re going to try - it isn’t quite as streamlined as MIDI-learn, but is miles easier than reprogramming controllers!
thanks everyone for all your patience on this!
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A bit of a late answer probably, but did you save the first version you downloaded? Then back up the updated version, and so on and so on, keeping each version as you go? Then you can roll back if needed.
Thanks, but no, I didn’t. I’m back to a simple default 1/11 on my sparrow for now. Thanks for the idea, though; I probably should start saving the last working version’s download until I know the new one works the way I want. It is frustrating, though, that the breath controller can’t quick learn a control setting.